A short piece in about naval discipline in former times.

The items below can generally be taken to relate to fairly recent years, except where flagged as .

One of the Flogmaster's first stories!


Regulations from Los Angeles in 1981, and a copy of the corporal punishment report form to be filed by the school -- all splendidly bureaucratic!

External links concerning domestic (parental) CP are to be found on .

Lots of blood, so don't read if you're the sensitive type.


Mentions that some of these 1930s work camps (not strictly speaking part of the Army) had "kangaroo courts" which carried out paddlings of those who "bucked the line".

Mentions canings with a "Penang Lawyer", described as a strip of rattan.

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Report of the "Forde Inquiry". Chapters 5 and 7 contain several descriptions of canings and floggings of boys up to as recently as the 1970s.

Recollections of canings -- in the 1960s, I think -- at Holbrook Naval School in Essex, UK.


Well, this story takes up where the video left off!

Much anecdotal evidence suggests that, in these circumstances, most teens, and certainly most young men, opt for the spanking, preferring to endure a "short sharp shock" of severe physical pain for a relatively brief duration, followed by a sore backside for a day or two, rather than long, tedious hours of unhealthy incarceration. In effect, students in these places may be seen to have been given "a right to be paddled" as well as "a right not to be paddled".

again and again and again and again...


Boy Scout Troop 17 in St Louis, MO, possessed a fraternity-type paddle in the 1950s, not for punishments but for "trading blows" for fun (scroll a little way down the page to find this).

This map appeared in the in October 2013 (read the whole article ).

If one accepts the pain without injury view (or something close to it), there are a number of conditions that will be important. One of these is the site on the body where the punishment will be administered. We would have to rule out those parts of the body where injury is likely to result. Attention would also have to be given to the implement used. Implements that are more prone to cause injury would be ruled out. Finally, the number and intensity of the blows would have to be calculated to avoid any chance of injury. The difficulties of measuring force are often cited. One would have to err on the side of caution. The courts are often called upon to pass judgment on questions of "reasonableness," even "reasonable force." There is no reason why, with more appropriate legislation to provide guidelines, similar judgments could not be made in cases in which excessive corporal punishment is charged.

A real novella of over 37,000 words.

A matter of choice. To a much greater extent than in the past, paddling has become in many schools an option for either the student or the parent, or both. Very likely, CP would not survive in as many places as it does, were this not so. Older teens, especially, may be offered a choice between a spanking and, say, detention or ISS. Some school handbooks, particularly at high-school level, lay down precise equivalences (either in general or for specific offenses), such as "three paddle swats or four days' after-school detention".

The following table gives estimates by state for 2011/12:


Article (2000) from the Pittsburgh about a scout troop whose camps involved getting the boys to strip naked and spank and paddle each other. Sounds like innocent fun to me, since even the police were forced to admit that the scout leader did not commit any sexual assault and that the boys were not hurt. So, having admitted that, did they drop the charges? Why, no! In the current culture of puritanical hysteria and witch-hunting, a fuss has to be manufactured about so-called "abuse" -- the fuss no doubt being, as usual with this sort of thing, far more traumatising for the kids than the events themselves -- and a harmless old geezer must be viciously harried and hounded through the courts and his life wrecked.